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Locating a Race Red Titanium....

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Howdy Folks....  

I am looking specifically for a RACE RED Titanium TC.  I will consider an XLT but want it pretty much loaded with options.  But... it has to be RACE RED. (NOT Kapoor Red)

I talked to a local dealer and he says there is only ONE  "Race Red Titanium" TC at a dealership in the USA.   And he said they may not let him get it for me.

How do I do a search to try to locate a RACE RED... Titanium or loaded XLT?   

I tried the Ford web site... but it shows many other choices other than the one I want.  Also if I try to expand my search, I have to keep changing zip codes and go to the 100 mile radius selection.  Which in my opinion, is obviously missing many dealerships.  I would like to find the right TC as near as I can to my location.  

There has to be a way to search ONLY for RACE RED TC's.

 

Also...  is it best to "go to the distant dealership" to purchase the one I might find, instead of buying it locally and have the vehicle driven to my location?  The thing I fear most is you have to buy it first, before they pick it up.  Which means, it is already mine before it arrives and there is no test drive before accepting the vehicle.  

 

And finally...  I am puzzled here. Why is my local Ford dealership seemingly "hiding" their TC's in the very back of the back row at the back edge of a gravel parking area?  (can't get any further back on the property)  Are they not selling?  Are they not wanting to sell them?  They have a white cargo and a very nice shiny dark colored TC Passenger Wagon.

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It's always best (cheapest) to buy any vehicle from the dealer who has it sitting on his lot and not asking another dealer to have it shipped to you  -  BOTH dealers will expect to make $$$ for their time and trouble.  In your case, since you're looking for the hen's teeth of all TC's, both dealers will know you're desperate and expect to make a bunch of $$$ from you, because all three of you know how rare this particular vehicle is . . . . whereas, if you were to show up at the dealer who has the vehicle, asking about a Titanium TC and they show you the red one you really want, you could say "Red, huh?  Don't you have it in a better color??"  Then, you could probably make a deal on the red one that he's had sitting unsold on his lot for a month or two  -  He was thinking it might be very hard to sell, so he gives you a break, rather than you pointing out that he has the only red one in all the USA and you've got to have a RED one!

 

Don

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You could order one.  BUT, lead time are very, very long.  Like 6 months...

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I find two XLT passenger wagons at Battlefield Ford in Manassas, Va. Race Red. Have no Idea where you are and don't know what you consider "loaded".

 

Ford is going to limit your search so they can keep the stealership in control. I suspect the salesman did not divulge the location of that "one Race Red Titanium". Decide how far you want to travel, be patient and search within that area.

Edited by OLDSCHOOLFOOL

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7 hours ago, davidparker said:

You could order one.  BUT, lead time are very, very long.  Like 6 months...

 

Yes, that's true and what I did. I got exactly what I wanted. But truth be told, you wait forever and then have to pay sticker price, because they know you want it. I managed a few discounts, but not much compared to the incentives for buying what's on the dealer's lot. More bargaining power. You be the judge.

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I've just never wanted something so specific that I felt the need to special order it new.  I much prefer to find 2, 3 or 4 year old really low miles vehicles and save $10K or so rather than pay a fortune for the privilege of ordering something brand new

 

When we bought our TC, I wanted the short wheelbase and had to hunt quite awhile to find the 'right' one, but we got a 2014 in 2017 with only 12,000 miles on it and we saved $12K . . . . a dollar a mile!  It was at a dealer in Georgia, 350 miles away.  Turned out, we were the first owners too!  The dealer had let it sit on his lot unsold for more than a year and then he titled it and used it as a dealer loaner vehicle for about 18 months and then we bought it

 

When we bought our 2017 Chevy Volt, I got way more 'specific' than I've ever done in the past.  I wanted the White Pearl paint with the black & brandy interior.  It had to be fully equipped with every option so I could make sure it had Adaptive Cruise Control.  I eventually found that exact one owner car with 20K on it and bought it for $16K off the sticker.  That one was in Iowa, 1,100 miles away, so we flew up to pick it up and made a week long vacation out of bringing it home

 

It'll definitely be a long time before I buy another brand new car again  -  I've only done it twice before.  Once when I ordered a VW GTI while I was stationed in Germany and we picked it up when we arrived stateside and last time was when we bought our first EV, a 2012 Mitsubishi iMiEv and we got a $7.5K tax credit buying it new

 

Don

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12 hours ago, zalienz said:

 

Yes, that's true and what I did. I got exactly what I wanted. But truth be told, you wait forever and then have to pay sticker price, because they know you want it. I managed a few discounts, but not much compared to the incentives for buying what's on the dealer's lot. More bargaining power. You be the judge.

 

Just want to clarify one point. If you order a new van, there's no reason to pay sticker price, or MSRP regardless of what you order.

If you use a buying service, there are many available, you will pay far less than sticker. I think most programs have similar pricing agreements with the auto makers.

 

In my case, I used Costco's auto buying program. Costco's program assigns you to a dealer based on your zip code that's enrolled in the program. You can switch dealers if needed. I did that. You are given a quote via email based on prearranged pricing structure between Costco and the dealer. I paid $100 less than dealer invoice. Not MSRP.  If there are any Ford incentives available when your van is delivered, you can stack those for extra savings. The only caveat when ordering is that you can't time the delivery so it may not align with Ford incentives. My purchase didn't. I tried, but the offers expired. The dealer had no incentive to help me.

 

I tried to take the Costco price to three other Ford dealers that were closer to me and none would match it.  In fact, they were unresponsive via email because I'm guessing they knew they weren't going to get anywhere near this pricing. Whether you use the buying service or not, it gives you a starting price point to negotiate with. There is no cost to you to use the service. The dealer pays a fee to the service. There is no haggling with the buying service. Fixed pricing.

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Costco is a good way to buy a car without the hassle.  The worst part about buying a car is the hassle of haggling.  What else do you buy, that you have to haggle pricing?  I can't imagine going to the grocery store, and negotiating a quart of milk.  Unless you enjoy asking, "here's $400Billion, now what are you going to do for me?".  What moron country hands out billions of dollars, without any return on investment?  

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