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2013/gen1 TPMS issue

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So I'm having an issue with the TPMS indicator always being on. Various bits of research have led me to believe that the spare (which on my vehicle has a silver rim) did not come from the factory with a TPMS sensor installed (on the four black rims have a sensor). The spare is currently mounted, and one of the original rims is in the spare position. TPMS sensors have never been replaced. Vehicle is a 2013 Transit Connect (original US body style), has ~47K miles and is slightly more than 6 years on the road.


obviously it is time to replace the sensors. for the first five years they behaved well, with no sensor misfires.

 

Now to my questions …

 

1. Can I buy 5 sensors and put one into the spare rim, or do I have to scout around salvage yards to find another black rim ?

 

2. will the TPMS system have issues if it sees five sensors reporting ?

 

3. (or) am I being forced to only have the black rims on the road, and the silver rim in the spare position ?

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Answers are:

1)  You CAN put a sensor in the spare. But...

2) You will have to "train" the TPMS module which ones to use.  So the one in the spare will be ignored until you retrain the module.  Therefore, if you have a flat, you will still have a low pressure light with the spare on the vehicle until you retrain the module.

 

The paint on the silver spare is a higher quality paint and is more rust resistant.  Your black ones probably already have surface rust on them.

 

Hope that helps!

 

 

 

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Curious why you don't put the black wheel back on and just go about your business? Is it flat or something?

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The dash light is on because you are using the spare wheel. It doesn't have a sensor.  Your OEM sensors in the black steel wheels may be fine.  You may not need to replace them.  Check them out first.  TPMS sensors can be installed on the silver wheels.  Motorcraft and aftermarket parts are available. Sensors can be triggered by letting air out, with a special tool, and allegedly a magnet.  There are videos online you can view.  The car will only read the sensor trained to that wheel position.  It won't read 5 sensors and be confused.  

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My 2010 has a low pressure light on.  I suspect the batteries in the sensors are tired.  For now, I'm just ignoring the light.  The tires that are on the van suck, and the OEM steel wheels are rusty.  All will be replaced.  Then I get to do the rain dance to retrain the sensor.  Stay tuned for a lot of cussing this coming summer sometime.

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Find some one with a TPMS tool and they can tell instantly which sensor is not working and why .

As for the retraining if you bring it to my shop I will retrain the sensors NC!

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You might get a line of people at your shop. What's the address?

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When you get close we can set up a meeting spot

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Ok, An update (I've been really busy since the orignal post) …

 

1. The silver rim is still mounted with the spare on passenger/front. That was originally done to expedite getting the vehicle moving. And (for one reason or the other) a decent tire (but not a Continental) is mounted on the original black rim, which is hanging under the rear end.

2. I came into (via Alliance Tire Recycling, about 4 miles from me) another 205/65-15 Continental Conti-Pro Contact. Minimally used (if at all), probably was the factory spare from another TC. vintage 2011, but no dry rot at all. So it's mounted on the driver/front position. I still have two original Continentals on the rear axle. About to replace them with new Continentals, which will get moved to the front positions. At that time, the TPMS sensors will all be replaced, the silver rim will return to the spare position with the non-Continental tire (which has awesome tread BTW).

3. Since all these shenanigans happened, last April I think when I had to move the spare up unexpectedly, I have had various as-sundry rattles coming from the rear, or driver's rear of the TC. Two days ago I resolved both of them, in less than 10 minutes. The first was the spare … It was not snugged up, so I pulled the spline tool, and made it so. Then, when returning the spline tool / lug wrench to the compartment, I noticed that the tool had been stowed backwards ! The head (with the angled socket) goes towards the rear, not the front. Stowing it correctly solved the second rattle, and now my TC rolls down the highway MUCH more quietly than it has since April. In both cases, the blame for the problems can be traced back to the guys who needed to drop the spare, and the tool to unbolt it.

Onward !

 

edit: As to the black vs the silver rims … If I could track down three more silver rims, I would happily run those as standard equipment, and dispose with the hubcaps altogether. Thus far, I've lost 3 of the original 4. Don't feel like replacing them TBH.

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additional thought

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As I searched for wheels, the OEM steel wheels are expensive.  New or used.  Even salvage yards selling on eBay want a lot of money to offset the cost of "free" shipping.   There are aftermarket steel wheels, which when I checked carefully, the dimensions are not exact to the factory wheel.  I found 1 style of aftermarket wheel with exact same dimensions.  Not a big deal if you replace all 5 wheels with new wheels.  You may not want to drive around with mismatched wheels and tires.  But since you are buying used tires, you probably will not be buying new wheels.  And you probably aren't interested in spending more on wheels than the tires cost.

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I found that replacing the OEM steel wheels with used Focus alloys was a whole lot cheaper than replacing them with steel wheels.  Alloys are lighter, look better, and make you a better person.  What's not to like?  The only issue for me is that I got a bigger diameter wheel.  On purpose, of course, but there's always that if you care.

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Got a pic of those focus wheels on your TC? Worth a thousand words and all that, eh.

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