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I decided at Christmas that I want an FTC Wagon this year, so I started counting Wagons I see on the road (including driveways & dealers' lots.) (I count vans, too, & that's a double-digit count every day)

 

#1 was a neighbour's driveway that I knew was there (he has since sold it.)

 

#2 was New Year's Eve that convinced me I've made the right decision - a drunk in a Chevy Tahoe burned a light & got T-boned in the left front wheel by a FTCW. Both doing 70 km/h. Family of 4 walked out of the FTC although their car looked like a mass shooting at a Judy Doll factory - limp airbags everywhere! The guy & gal in the Tahoe came out with Jaws of Life...

 

I won't enumerate all the others, (2 in driveways near the dealer I'm going through) but I saw #7 today March 23 in Greenfield Park QC.

 

Are wagons as rare elsewhere as they are in Montreal area?

 

G5

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Yes  they are not the norm, and the ones with swing doors in the back are even harder to find. I was fortunate that a dealer in north eastern VT had exactly the right one in black. 

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Most people who buy minivans get Dodge, Honda, & Toyota.  

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#11 parks less than 50 metres from me at work & I didn't even know it - their building is between their parking lot & ours, and I arrive from the other side.

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On 3/23/2018 at 7:26 PM, Jiquay said:

 

Are wagons as rare elsewhere as they are in Montreal area?

 

G5

 

They seem to be rare too in metro Vancouver area. Although they are familiar with the vans, people ask me regularly what kind of vehicle I drive when I pull up with my xlt wagon.

There is usually some used wagons for sale at dealerships (ex-rentals), but they are not a hot item, and don't seem to move easily. That allowed me to negotiate a good deal when I bought mine, after it sat unsold for 8 months.

 

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Dandy:

you have rental wagons around? I rented a van to get a decent test drive of the chassis, because NOBODY rents the wagon & dealers (other than Chartrand Ford) don't stock them. 

Chartrand had a wagon on order for stock but its' option list was diametrically opposite what I want - hence my long wait as Ford builds mine.

 

GK

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That is what I was told when I bought my slightly used wagon. It has been previously insured for 6-8 months (8500 kms) as a rental, according to the carproof papers.

I checked the websites of the local rental companies, and none of them lists a TC specifically; just a brand or another "or similar". I have a hunch that maybe Hertz has some TCs, but I haven't phoned to check.

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Wagons are rare here.  When I was looking last summer seemed to be a number of used ones for sale that had come from rental fleets.  When I say a good number that is with a 500 mile search radius on GarGurus or AutoTrader.  I have only seen 5 or 6 wagons since I bought mine.  They are rare here  The van version is everywhere!  

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I got the wagon count up to #16 by April 29 - the day I returned to my job as a delivery driver for a lumberyard. (I was recovering from surgery...)

 

Every day in my boom truck, I see 80-100 vans & 3-8 wagons. Being more of a commercial vehicle, I guess it doesn't come out at night... an automotive werewolf! In spite of STM (the Montreal bus company) owning a large fleet of wagons, it's still a rare bird, but not a passenger pigeon or whooping crane.

 

GK

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Oh, I got to talk to a wagon owner on 3 stoplights yesterday - a '17 with the same options as my order. He got it after a series of Caravans & a Lumina that were passed down to his kids. "After driving (the FTC,) my old Caravan feels like driving a school bus!"

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Now that I own one I see them all the time......very popular in Florida.

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Color me confused ... there's a difference between a standard Transit Connect and a "wagon" ?

 

Excuse my ignorance, but new owner and I pretty much ignored the whole line up until I got one ...

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Transit connect is the delivery version,the wagon is passenger version...

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#25 is now sitting in my driveway!

(This is the count of what has been seen from my personal vehicle, not including those I saw from the work truck)

 

Magnetic Metallic XLT 7-passenger with barn doors, trailer hitch & roof rack. (that's what I wanted on an XL)

Airplane console, 17" mags & Sync (that's the stuff I didn't want)

Global window opening (when it's been in the hot sun in the parking lot for 7 hours, this is NICE!!!!)

Missing the electric defrost windshield.

 

When Ford cancels your build after 4 months' wait, you scan the inventory of all the dealers & choose the one that comes closest to your needs.

 

GK

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If I ordered a van ... and waited four months to be told I couldn't get it?!!?  First thing I'd do is threaten Ford that my next stop is the local news stations, to scream about this kind of treatment.

If they didn't do something to make it right, I'd keep screaming until it was a national news item.

 

I'd make sure that I wasn't the only vehicle sale they lost.

 

Second thing I'd have done ... go to some other brand to buy a similar vehicle.

 

I like my T. C.  ... but I'm not "married" to Ford or the T.C.

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You made a great choice welcome.  I think about what I would  order then find the  unit that has most of what I want  nearest me and save the 4 months of uncertainty.  

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I don't get it.  I've never ordered a car.  In the old days, it was a matter of browsing the lot, finding one I liked, go on a test drive, then haggling with the salesperson.  Today, you can browse the inventory online, go on a test drive, and you still have to haggle the salesperson.

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Today you get an option of ordering a car to your own tase. I waited for months for my first new car (1996 Escort CLX 3-door) because I wanted it in Augergine Metallic paint. Noone in their right mind orders this in stock.

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Um ... eggplant was your color of choice?  :thumbsup:

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You waited for an Escort?

 

i remember working at a place where they had Escorts, Tempos, 

Rangers, and Taurus.  The Escort was just fine for what I did, which was driving a lot of miles.  Fleet service took care of maintenance and I never broke down.  We drove all of those for over 100,000 miles, before they went to the used car lot.  We had the option to purchase from the company.  But nobody wanted a 2-3 year old Ford with that many miles. 

 

Can't say that it was a bad car.  Don't think I would have waited for one on order.

 

in 96, if I had the luxury to make the choice, which I couldn't afford to do, I would have bought a Toyota Celica.  

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3 hours ago, Mike Chell said:

Um ... eggplant was your color of choice?  :thumbsup:

 

Yes, it was different.

 

1 hour ago, Fifty150 said:

You waited for an Escort? Can't say that it was a bad car.  Don't think I would have waited for one on order.

 

 

I did. That was the best I could afford new back then. Note that this was the standalone Euro version which had nothing to do with Mazda 323. It was a 100% Ford product and it had upscale interior, excellent materials and nice interior design.

 

It was identical to this apart from color and dark interior.

 

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1 hour ago, mrtn said:

 

 

 

Note that this was the standalone Euro version which had nothing to do with Mazda 323. It was a 100% Ford product and it had upscale interior, excellent materials and nice interior design.

 

 

 

 

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Okay.  I get it.  It was different than what I drove here in USA.    Must have been nicer than the commercial fleet vehicle that I drove with the blue vinyl upholstery and rubber floors, AM only radio, crank handles for the windows, and no A/C.  

 

I bought my F-150 new, right off the dealership lot.  Grey vinyl upholstery, rubber floors,  AM only radio, crank handles for the windows, and no A/C.  The best that I could afford was a leftover commercial fleet vehicle.  City had a "change order" due to budget cuts, and the truck was sitting in the back corner of the lot without a window sticker, covered in all the dust & dirt & grime from a cross country transport on the back of a truck.  The dealer didn't even bother with the "dealer prep" clean-up to make it presentable.  

 

It was the best that I could afford at that moment in time.

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I've been driving 36 years & until last week, I've owned 2 vehicles. I figure I'll only own 2 more. THIS ONE is gonna be NEW. And CUSTOM.

 

Well, I guess I got half of that now.

 

GK

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It's still custom.

 

It's no stripped down base model, only good enough for government employees.

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