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govandlaw
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It's not your van.  It's the pump handle.  If the nozzle isn't seated correctly, the squeeze lever will disengage.  Gravity and fuel flow can cause this.  Pull out.  Re-Inert.  Or you may just have to stand there holding it in place.

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12 hours ago, govandlaw said:

Anyone having trouble fueling their van with the pump auto stop going off prematurely, if so, any solutions?

 

YES - It's one of my top annoyances with my 2015 Cargo TC. Sometimes it's like trying to fill a portable gas can.

I assumed it partly has something to do with emissions design of the pumps here in Southern California combined with a lousy filler design by Ford.

I don't have the same problem with other or past cars so it's a TC thing for sure. Also don't like the fact that the filler door doesn't lock.

 

Some pumps are way worse than others to the point that you have to push hard and continue to apply pressure or it will pop out and shutoff.

I like to set the automatic fill lever and step away from the van so I'm no sucking up the gas fumes. Can't do that with the TC.

I try to remember which pumps are less troublesome. I have one at my local Mobil that works better than most others but I still have to hover.

 

Thankfully I don't put a lot of miles on the van so I'm not filling up very often.

I have to be mindful of about how much fuel I need to add so I don't risk overfilling the tank. I have it in my head you're not supposed to do that with this van.

Never sure if a pump shutoff means the tank is full or the pump is being twitchy. It's a process I've learned to live with but never happy with.

 

 

 

 

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It's the way the nozzle seats, and the flexible shroud.    Going to the same pumps all the time, I haven't found a solution.  Sometimes it fills fine.  Other times, it doesn't, and I have to stand there holding the fuel pump gun.

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The gas nozzles in California have vapor recovery systems. The nozzle has a rubber boots that seals against the vehicle filler housing. A retainer ring around the nozzle pipe is supposed to hold the nozzle in the fill neck against the pressure from the rubber and/or spring loaded boot.

 

The filler neck on my 2016 does not hook onto the retainer ring properly. The spring loaded boots pop the nozzle out of the filler neck. This appears to be a design issue with these types of filler necks. I have heard that California is battling with Ford over this design.

 

For info, the vapor recovery systems are only needed on older vehicles. The system sucks in the gas vapors that are displaced when filling. Newer cars have built in vapor recovery. This is why we don't smell gas fumes any more when filling up a newer car. California wants to retire the vapor recovery requirement in a few years. The only concern is communities and people that have a lot of old cars will be negatively impacted so who knows what will happen.

 

FYI, the vapor recovery requirement was the single most effective regulation in reducing smog. It had the added benefit of reducing the driver to acute exposure to toxic fumes.

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10 hours ago, Fifty150 said:

It's the way the nozzle seats, ......

That was my first thought too. The little double door setup for the capless fuel filler can sometimes be a bit of a pain if the nozzle has a bend too close to the end. Occassionally a straight-in insertion through the first door causes the end of the nozzle to only partially open the second little flapper because the curve of the nozzle wants to force the end of the nozzle to move towards the edge of the opening and it catches instead of moving smoothly through the second opening. When this happens, the auto shutoof seems to trip almost immediately when trying to start fuelling. But a slight tipping of the nozzle to clear it from catching the edge of the second opening and it usually goes in just a bit more and now that the second flapper is fully open it fuels fine and shuts off normally once the tank nears full.

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9 hours ago, Don Ridley said:

 

I have heard that California is battling with Ford over this design.

 

There will not be a recall for that.  Ford may have to redesign new cars.  Maybe pay a fine.  We will have to stand there holding the pump handle.  I doubt if CA is doing away with the boot.

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Bought gas and noticed cars in front of me had this problem.  Person on left decided to stand there holding the pump.  Person on the right called for help.  Gas attendant stood there and pumped the gas.  I position the hose against the pump, so that it doesn't move, and it holds the pump nozzle in position.  Hope that helps.

 

 

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