bx77 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Hello, quick question does the XL have the wiring harness for the fog lights? Before I start taking things apart, any info would be helpful Thanks Bx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Okay. So now that we're almost into the 2017 model year, did anyone find out or have an aswer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Don Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Wait . . . . I've got an idea! Lets ask the guy who lives in 'Fog City' - Surely he'll know! Don zalienz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I don't think I'm going through the trouble to install OEM lights into those cut-out locations. Funny how people who actually live in Fog Town, have gotten by all these years without those little cornering lights. If I add lighting, it will probably be more along the lines of LED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just another find @ amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/10-15-Transit-Connect-Wiring-Conversion/dp/B01CZ6NW4W/ref=sr_1_30?ie=UTF8&qid=1476607226&sr=8-30&keywords=ford+transit+connect+fog+lights 10-15 Ford Transit Connect Fog Light Set w/ Wiring Kit & HID Conversion Kit (Clear) by AJ Auto Be the first to review this item Price: $73.75 & FREE Shipping Your cost could be $68.75: Qualified customers get $5 in Gift Card funds on first $100 reload of their Amazon Gift Card Balance. Learn more Note: Not eligible for Amazon Prime. Only 20 left in stock. Estimated Delivery Date: Oct. 20 - 25 when you choose Standard Shipping at checkout. Ships from and sold by ajautocompany. Color: Clear $83.75 $73.75 $73.75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Still haven't checked if my fog lights have the cornering option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ridley Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The cornering lights are clever, but I doubt they will ever illuminate anything I need to worry about. You can make the lights wink by turning the wheel back and forth at a stoplight. I also never realized any advantage using fog lights...maybe they help others see you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Haven't used mine either. My Toyota has really clever cornering feature called AFS, the front lights turn together with steering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Don Ridley said: I also never realized any advantage using fog lights...maybe they help others see you? On almost vehicle I've ever driven, the OEM fog lights don't do anything. Even if in theory, they are correctly mounted in the lower corners of the front of the vehicle. I have had good results with certain aftermarket installations using different housing and lamp combinations. Otherwise, it's like all those lighting mods that kids do on Fast n Furious Hondas. When you look at them, they're bright and look good. But from behind the wheel, your visibility is not enhanced. Rear fog lights are designed for just that purpose. If for whatever reason, the person behind you can't see your car or all the other lights on your car, then the rear fog light is meant to announce your presence on the road ahead of them. The front fog lights are meant to project downward and in a flood pattern. The theory is that the light will hit the ground directly in front of, and around the front of your vehicle, so that you can see the road, lane dividers, and reflectors as your headlights are "bouncing" off the blanket of fog. Fog lights do not throw very far. That's not the purpose. They are suppose to help you see the road, so that you can stay on the road. And, you're already suppose to be driving a lot slower, so added distance is not an issue. Fog rises off the ground, so any other lighting will simply bounce back at you. In CA, we have something called a "Tule Fog". This is where my fog lights have either worked, or not worked. My best results were with Hella brand lights, running 100W lamps. Roll over image to zoom in Optilux 1450 12-Volt/55-Watt Rectangular Clear Halogen Fog Lamp Kit by HELLA 3.9 out of 5 stars Roll over image to zoom in HELLA HLA-H83135121: H3 12V 100W Yellow Star Off Road Use by HELLA 2.8 out of 5 stars 27 customer reviews | 4 answered questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateTheFknGreat Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 9 hours ago, Fifty150 said: On almost vehicle I've ever driven, the OEM fog lights don't do anything. Even if in theory, they are correctly mounted in the lower corners of the front of the vehicle. I have had good results with certain aftermarket installations using different housing and lamp combinations. Otherwise, it's like all those lighting mods that kids do on Fast n Furious Hondas. When you look at them, they're bright and look good. But from behind the wheel, your visibility is not enhanced. Rear fog lights are designed for just that purpose. If for whatever reason, the person behind you can't see your car or all the other lights on your car, then the rear fog light is meant to announce your presence on the road ahead of them. The front fog lights are meant to project downward and in a flood pattern. The theory is that the light will hit the ground directly in front of, and around the front of your vehicle, so that you can see the road, lane dividers, and reflectors as your headlights are "bouncing" off the blanket of fog. Fog lights do not throw very far. That's not the purpose. They are suppose to help you see the road, so that you can stay on the road. And, you're already suppose to be driving a lot slower, so added distance is not an issue. Fog rises off the ground, so any other lighting will simply bounce back at you. In CA, we have something called a "Tule Fog". This is where my fog lights have either worked, or not worked. My best results were with Hella brand lights, running 100W lamps. Roll over image to zoom in Optilux 1450 12-Volt/55-Watt Rectangular Clear Halogen Fog Lamp Kit by HELLA 3.9 out of 5 stars Roll over image to zoom in HELLA HLA-H83135121: H3 12V 100W Yellow Star Off Road Use by HELLA 2.8 out of 5 stars 27 customer reviews | 4 answered questions Isn't it always a 50-50 chance something works or it doesn't.......? I'm just being a jacka$$.... I was going switch my fogs to LED's but got the 32" light bar instead... No fog here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 factors of visibility. People seeing you. You seeing the road. Ideally, you want both. Same amount of labor involved. Cost variant will be parts. For your 32" light bar, have you considered mounting it above the windshield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is what my OEM headlamp with OEM halogen H11 looks like. In a heavy fog condition, fog lights are suppose to be able to compensate and provide similar visibility on the road surface so that you can at least see the road and lane markers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 A clear day on The Barbary Coast. You can see the clouds behind Alcatraz, Saints Peter & Paul Cathedral, and Coit Tower. When the fog bank rolls in, it's a different conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Don Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Anybody know if the OEM fog lights on the 14 and newer TC's are CanBus connected or not? I'd like to install LED lamps while I'm in there adding DRL's to my fog lights because changing the bulbs is an all day proposition, but if the lights are activated by the CanBus, I'll need external resistors to make them work and I'd want to order the resistors before I take the van apart Thanks! Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The whole car is run on the canbus You. should not need resistors as there is no flashers involved. The LED's need resistors to signal the flasher. If the led works in the dome light it will work in the fog light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Don Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Well, I got my DRL's installed. I already had the OEM fog lights and I replaced those units with similar ones which had both a fog and a DRL bulb. I did use LED's for the DRL's but the LED's I bought for the fog lights were far less effective than the OEM 55 watt halogen bulbs, so I stayed with those It wasn't as simple a project as I had envisioned though. You must remove the wheel/tire and the inner fender well to even get at the lights. On the left hand side, you still can't see the light as Ford mounted the engine computer behind the foglight, so that's got to be moved as well. I had to modify the fixture holder a little to make room for the DRL bulb which comes out of the bottom but it was as simple as cutting away a bit of plastic with a pair of snips. For now, I have the DRL's running off a spare fuse slot (F45) in the battery fusebox, but that means they are on whenever the key is on - They don't go off when you turn the head lights on like they do in our other cars, so I'll have to see if they bother oncoming drivers at night and if so, I'll add a relay so they go off when the headlights come on No question the van is more visible with them on. Sure don't understand why Ford opted not to install DRL's as standard on all USA models. I know they are required on every vehicle in Canada and I think that's a good idea Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Beta Don said: Sure don't understand why Ford opted not to install DRL's as standard on all USA models. I know they are required on every vehicle in Canada and I think that's a good idea It's about the amount of daylight and the brightness of it. We have always had DRL mandatory but we're also at the same latitude as Anchorage, Alaska so plenty of dark time from August to April. The sun barely sets in June tho. Just a couple of hours behind the horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Beta Don said: No question the van is more visible with them on. Sure don't understand why Ford opted not to install DRL's as standard on all USA models. I know they are required on every vehicle in Canada and I think that's a good idea Don Some people don't like DRL. You will probably never want to drive at night with all the lights off, but I might need the "tactical advantage" of being able to creep up on somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Has any one with DRL's tried pulling the handbrake 1 click. This turns off the Light on my Vehicles that are equipped with DRL's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, G B L said: Has any one with DRL's tried pulling the handbrake 1 click. This turns off the Light on my Vehicles that are equipped with DRL's Tested, nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Too bad worth a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Don Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Now that my upgrade is complete, I have a pair of lightly used OEM 2014 fog light housings sans bulbs which I no longer need. PM me if interested Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I would take them off your hands, if I knew that I could use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Don Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Here's a couple photos The new combo Fog/DRL units are standard on many cars - They're the same units used on our Mitsubishi electric cars as well as several other domestic and Japanese brands. The close-up shows the LED bulb in place of the incandescent P13W bulb that they usually use for the DRL. The fog light bulb is behind the little reflector for the DRL bulb The other photo just shows them lit up on the car - They're a lot brighter than they appear because the camera was so close to the front of the car that they're not aimed right at the camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Have you tried them in the fog yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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