2019 TC 8 Speed SelectShift AT

[RobSwift]

I am trying to learn more about the transmission in my 2019 Transit Connect Wagon Titanium.  I know it has the 8 speed transmission, not the 6 speed 6F35.  Could someone help point me towards instructions for a fluid service for this model?  Everything I am finding online is for the 6F35.

 

Thank you,

 

Rob

[mrtn]

European diesel models have this 8-speed transmission. Perhaps it's the same in US gasoline models.

[Fifty150]

The fluid specification and fill capacity should be in your owners manual.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Fifty150]

It looks like the 8F35 uses 8.5 liters of ULV.  Most likely, it's 4 liters for the drain and fill.  It has drain plug.  You can fill through the vent port.  

 

It's almost like the 6F35.  Service procedure looks the same.

 

 

[Willygee]

To clarify..Mercon ULV not interchangeable w/ Mercon LV? I have a 6F35.

[mrtn]

No. Get the correct one, not "multi vehicle compatible something".

[Fifty150]

 

9 hours ago, Willygee said:

To clarify..Mercon ULV not interchangeable w/ Mercon LV? I have a 6F35.

 

A 6F35 uses Mercon LV.  A 8F35 uses ULV.

 

Mercon ULV is not backwards compatible with any other ATF.  You cannot use ULV when the specification is for another fluid.  So the logic would be that the opposite is also true.  You cannot use any other ATF if ULV is called for.  

 

 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, mrtn said:

No. Get the correct one, not "multi vehicle compatible something".

 

That is correct.  If you go to a store, and find bottles of "multi vehicle ATF", it is not LV.  If ia fluid is multi-vehicle, then it is not specific to any vehicle.  Some of the multi-vehicle ATF formulations have been bottled and sold with the same recipe, since the 60's, 70's, or 80's, and at best, are okay for use with Dex/Merc transmissions.  

 

A few multi-vehicle ATF formulations are labeled as "recommended for" or "approved for" LV.  It's how you interpret the wording.  Who is recommending it?  Who approved it?  Not Ford.  Ford has a specification.  Ford and GM have never issued a service bulletin to ignore the fluid specification, and just use something that's close enough to it.

 

 

 

 

If it meets the specification, the bottle will say that it meets the specification, and/or will read that it is a product licensed by Ford.  If you are buying ATF online, or from a store, LV is now a common item.  It's not hard to find.  It's readily available.  There is not a good reason to use the wrong fluid.

 

 Yet, some of us still use multi vehicle ATF.  I am using Valvoline that I bought at Wal*Mart.  I don't have a good reason.  I have a reason.  It was cheap.  Valvoline ATF cost less than most other ATF.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mrtn]

I'm having my first 8F35 fluid change in a few weeks (50K miles). Going to do a full flush in a dedicated transmission shop who know what they're doing. Will post what they used.

[Fifty150]

That should be an interesting experience.  Will they use a fluid exchange machine?  Or will they use the drain plug and fill port?  Will they perform a triple drain and fill, or just drain it once?  Will the shop use ULV, or substitute with a multi-vehicle fluid?

 

My personal opinion is that a machine is more efficient.  I wish I had a machine at home.  In the past, with other vehicles, I would disconnect the transmission return line, let the contaminated fluid drain into a bucket, and fill with fresh fluid.  When clean fluid begins to drain out, I know that the transmission is full of fresh fluid.  The Transit Connect does not have a tranny cooler in front with quick disconnect lines.

[mrtn]

This shop promotes their inline replacement machine. Don't know how they specifically did it but it took 12 liters of fluid.

They only use OEM spec fluid just like the two flushes I have had done in my 6F35 (Dexron VI the first time and Mercon LV the 2nd time).

[Fifty150]

Interesting that Ford sells the vehicles with a "lifetime fluid", and has a full line of equipment for dealership technicians to service the transmission.

 

 

[G B L]

The flushing equipment could be a technical marvel or a Tech on a step ladder!

12 liters sounds normal, 13 qts.

[mrtn]

16 hours ago, G B L said:

The flushing equipment could be a technical marvel or a Tech on a step ladder!

12 liters sounds normal, 13 qts.

 

I think they have the eqipment as advertised. Here's a 6 years old video from their shop. You can see the flushing device being hooked up at 0:50

 

 

[G B L]

Very cool, I don't have a video 0f me on the step ladder. The end result is a transmission with clean fluid.

Which engine did you get in the new TC?

[mrtn]

32 minutes ago, G B L said:

Which engine did you get in the new TC?

Oh, it's the Berlingo have posted about earlier. Ford uses Peugeot/Citroen diesel engines, has been doing so since Gen1. The auto transmission is also the same.

[G B L]

21 hours ago, mrtn said:

Oh, it's the Berlingo

OK, that is good to know, Still we won't get to see one here unfortunately. Still no barn doors on the wagon version ?

[mrtn]

3 hours ago, G B L said:

OK, that is good to know, Still we won't get to see one here unfortunately. Still no barn doors on the wagon version ?

I have seen a wagon with asymmetrical barn doors but that's SWB. No LWB combo. I got the last of ICE (1.5 diesel + 8F35). They dropped both diesel and gasoline engines last Autumn. Now it's electric only.

 

I wouldn't completely rule out any of Berlingo's sister models for US seeing Stellantis doing major overhaul in all global model ranges. The other popular European compact vans (TC, RAM Promaster City) seem to be selling great in the US. Would be just electric tho.

[G B L]

If the electric's all get together and come up with an interchangeable battery then it might make sense as a usable vehicle, until then it won't work for me.