kdkool Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) All right boys and girls, Just wanted to start a thread about my venture into installing the OEM SYNC 2 navigation system into my 15 XL LWB cargo van.... This is what I started with... With a dremel and some bent pieces of metal.... and this is where I am as of right now... Next on.... Wiring! To be continued.... Edited April 8, 2017 by kdkool tyop FocusRush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Kielinski Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Awesome. I can't wait to read about how the wiring goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chong Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Did your van already ship with SYNC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) All right, I just finished soldering the harness together with the GPSM module, SD Card Hub, and the front panel connector. All that's left to do is tie 12V / GND / and 3 canbus interfaces to the car to get it powered on. Not yet arrived is the backup camera and the Mic. :-( Edited March 24, 2017 by kdkool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 6 hours ago, chong said: Did your van already ship with SYNC? No... Just the basic AM / FM radio. The only "option" my vehicle came with was the rear glass and cruise control. Goal for this project is fully functional Navigation / Bluetooth Audio / Bluetooth Phone / Backup Camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chong Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Are you following someone else's write up on how this work or are you blazing this path yourself? I'm most curious to see how the stock radio is configured in your van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 On 3/26/2017 at 9:31 AM, chong said: Are you following someone else's write up on how this work or are you blazing this path yourself? I'm most curious to see how the stock radio is configured in your van. No I'm not following any one else's write up. I ordered an electrical diagram book and reverse engineered the wiring diagrams to make a custom harness. The stock radio in my van has AM and FM radio with 2 front door speakers. No canbus signals. Switched ignition 12V powers the radio on and off. That's about it.... Are you looking for any other details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Quick update.... finally got some decent weather to work on this over the weekend. System powers on and plays for audio for a few seconds. Sadly, it powers down with a battery savings message. I can power it back and it repeats itself. I'm not really sure if I'm missing anything obvious. I checked all my connections 3 times but I haven't found anything. I powered the APIM and the GPSM off fuse F67 just like the OEM system. The ACM and the front buttons are powered off F79 also like the OEM diagram. I found a strange discrepency in the wiring diagram and the actual wire color connected to my mechless ACM with regards to pins 3 and 5. Kind of odd but I tried matching up to how the SYNC 2 system is defined. Haven't found anything else more obvious yet. Next step is to see if the BCM or IPC needs any coding to enable anything. Possible things I can think of is needing delayed accessory power enabled or if I need to enable the canbus on the IPC (pins were not populated on the IPC harness). If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, I'm all ears. FocusRush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 All right good news! Used forscan to enable the BCM to allow for for a CD player / Touchscreen and it all works now. Doing so also enabled delayed accessory power so all things stay powered on until the door opens. *Happy Dance* Only thing left now is to install the mic, backup camera, and install the SD slot. One weird thing so far is that 911 emergency doesn't work. I'm sure it's another setting of some sort... For another day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hmm, you have temperature display in the cluster screen top row. Want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandytc Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The default language of the display appears to be French...Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Perhaps it was meant to be shipped to Quebec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 On 4/5/2017 at 2:13 PM, mrtn said: Perhaps it was meant to be shipped to Quebec. Funny that you mention that because I bought the APIM / Screen from ebay and it shipped out of Quebec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) I got the backup camera in mail today. Just got it mounted. Looks really good for an aftermarket camera. Just gotta wait for some more pins to come in so I can populate the APIM harness. Going to run the camera off the reverse signal coming off the GPSM module. Edited April 8, 2017 by kdkool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbv Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chong Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) On 4/4/2017 at 11:04 PM, kdkool said: One weird thing so far is that 911 emergency doesn't work. I may be tipping my hand a bit here, but your APIM came from a car with a different CAN architecture. That's why 911 Assist doesn't work. How are you wiring up the camera? If you aren't currently seeing a camera fault when you go into reverse, you may expect some difficulties when you get the camera hooked up. Edited April 18, 2017 by chong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, chong said: I may be tipping my hand a bit here, but your APIM came from a car with a different CAN architecture. That's why 911 Assist doesn't work. How are you wiring up the camera? If you aren't currently seeing a camera fault when you go into reverse, you may expect some difficulties when you get the camera hooked up. Backup camera works great. Backup camera goes directly into the APIM harness at pins 14 and 15. I just clipped the backup camera's RCA jack off and terminated it with the mating pins for the APIM connector. I then went in with forscan to change the value of A128 to a A328 at 7D0-01-01 to activate the backup camera. I'm not sure what you mean by "tipping your hand" but the canbus infrastructure should be the same if the vehicle model could be factory optioned with the SYNC2 / SYNC3 systems. The 3 canbus interfaces are of the same speeds between all the ford vehicles I've studied. Sure, there may be different modules that may be missing or present dependent on options. I guess worst case scenario, I could sniff the canbus packets on another vehicleand resequence them to fake the 911 assist problem or figure out how to deactivate it within the APIM. I haven't had the time to do it yet but I believe reprogramming the restraint module should clear my 911 assist issue. Will confirm in a few days when I get back to the vehicle. Edited April 18, 2017 by kdkool FocusRush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Maheri Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Hi Mr. Kool, I am so impress with your project as you have made this thing to work with TC you have. I just bought 2014 TC wagon too with exact radio but dame with CD. So I went with the after market head Kenwood with Apple carplay. it work well, however b/c of slanted kit. the glare is making this unless. So I want to go your route and wondering if you could tell share you project in a bit more detail. especially with the wiring. Questions': 1- Where do I get the wiring diagram for this? 2- Did you bought everything at one place or got them from multi locations. 3- Did you had to replace the TOP cover with a deferent one to match the front bezel? they look a bit deffernt. 4- Is there a way to just get the front bezel and still use the aftermarket head so that the unit facing the back rather in an angle. And lastly, what version of the Sync you have and if you are able to get Carplay.I really appreciate your input on this and thank you in advance. PS. This is smiler to my install but with a Kenwood head. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 1- Where do I get the wiring diagram for this? I bought a service manual booklet for it on ebay. 2- Did you bought everything at one place or got them from multi locations. I used ebay to piece together all the parts 3- Did you had to replace the TOP cover with a deferent one to match the front bezel? they look a bit deffernt. No i just used my original one. It looks a little different but it doesn't bother me 4- Is there a way to just get the front bezel and still use the aftermarket head so that the unit facing the back rather in an angle. No, you wouldn't be able to mount a double din unit where the OEM screen is situated. And lastly, what version of the Sync you have and if you are able to get Carplay.I really appreciate your input on this and thank you in advance. I'm just doing a SYNC 2 system but I could pretty easily swap in a sync 3 module for carplay. I don't really care for carplay as I'm lazy about plugging in devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Wow can't believe it's been so long that I've been here. Just to give you guys an update, I finally got around to fixing the 911 assist nag about it not working. You have to program the RCM unit to enable 911 emergency assist. for my cargo van, I had to change the following in Forscan. 737-02-01 YXXX XXXX XXXX change Y from 4 to C. I can also share my APIM's as built if anyone else ever needs to get this going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Very well done. I applaud your success. And thanks for returning to the forum to share your update. Sharing your efforts, and making it easier for the next guy, is what car forums are all about. Now on to hijacking threads, personal opinions, and everything which is not politically correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkool Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Indeed forums need contribution. I have way too many projects and my transit connect rarely gets action hence the gap in updates. It only has 3k miles on the clock since I purchased it new. Been busy figuring out a LS3 into a BMW wagon and studying a hybrid transmission to build pure EV which lead me down the path of building a solar array system with lead acid batteries and lithium cells. All of this will soon come a screeching halt now that I've taken on building a software startup business. ADHD full fledged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 No chance of sitting around and having nothing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishbashbosh19 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Hi i am trying to locate sync 2 system but cant find any does anybody know the part numbers ? thanks in advance ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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