Fifty150 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 hours ago, mrtn said: Amazing difference within the same country. I guess they excluded Puerto Rico. No stability what-so-ever in a free market economy. That's why we all pay different amounts for the same thing.....real estate, fuel, water, milk, produce, meat, lady friends.......prices vary according to region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ridley Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 I reviewed the wiring diagrams and it appears the switched power in the AJB comes through the relay mounted at the top of the AJB. These circuits are limited to 20 amps by a fuse. You should use the constant "hot" fuse slots in the AJB for most added circuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 10 hours ago, Don Ridley said: I reviewed the wiring diagrams and it appears the switched power in the AJB comes through the relay mounted at the top of the AJB. These circuits are limited to 20 amps by a fuse. You should use the constant "hot" fuse slots in the AJB for most added circuits. Thank You. Good to know when planning future installations. 12V X 20 AMP + maximum of 240 watts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 This looks like the tool that I'll be buying. Let me know if it will work, or if it won't work. https://smile.amazon.com/IWISS-Crimper-DELPHI-Terminals-Barrel/dp/B00GD03NI2/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1477007027&sr=8-12&keywords=Molex+Style+Crimp+Tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ridley Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yes. it will work. I have the same one. You just have to figure out which jaws crimp the wire and which crimp the insulation/strain relief. You will look for reasons to use it once you successfully crimp a connector or terminal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckethead Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Is it just the wagon models that have the AJB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Buckethead, Go ahead and check the passenger side rear corner panel of your vehicle. That is where I found mine. As far as I know, they all have them. Otherwise, where else would they run power for all those items. I'll see you around town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckethead Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 No my van doesn't have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Buckethed, It looks like you can simply install your own. Then you can locate the unit anywhere you want. http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcat/70107 P/N 70107 CirKit Boss Auxiliary Fuse Block/7 Circuits $89.99 Application Specs Larger Image The safe way to add electrical accessories to any vehicle is with a CirKit Boss™. The first circuit isolator system available with both constant and ignition hot circuit kits. Kits include an in-line circuit breaker, relay, relay/fuse block base with preterminated harness and mounting hardware and terminals. Protects your OEM warranty and is easy to install. 70107- Provides three 20 Amp constant hot and four ignition hot circuits with a maximum total amperage handling of 40 Amps. This kit includes: One 40 Amp SPST relay One 50 Amp circuit breaker Relay base/fuse block with harness Crimp-on terminals Mounting hardware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 So far, the tools that I've seen are for 14-28 AWG. Anybody actually find a tool for 12 AWG and larger wire? Iwiss IWISS Wire Harness Plug Crimping Tool Open Barrel Teminal Crimper for Molex, Delphi,AMP/Tyco, Harley, PC/Computer, Automotive, Weather Pack, Metri-Pack 14-24 AWG 3.7 out of 5 stars 16 customer reviews Price: $22.69 Free Shipping for Prime Members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonShockley Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 This is the crimper I eventually ended up getting specifically for the Metri-pack connectors. Although the dies are marked in mm instead of AWG, it will do 12 AWG. https://www.amazon.com/Astro-Pneumatic-Tool-9478-Interchangeable/dp/B01CN99TCA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1503537765&sr=8-4&keywords=astro+crimper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonShockley Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Just found this tool-only set that is cheaper than the full set with terminal parts that I bought. In a way it's better because the case includes an instructional diagram plus both metric and AWG sizes on the spaces where the dies are stored. https://www.amazon.com/Weather-Connector-Terminal-Ratcheting-Crimping/dp/B06XCRS3XY/ref=pd_sim_469_78?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XCRS3XY&pd_rd_r=JFWKEB9NYR3AA27M597D&pd_rd_w=Ojppj&pd_rd_wg=Xxqe0&psc=1&refRID=JFWKEB9NYR3AA27M597D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 That really is a big difference in price point, in comparison to the little $20 tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonShockley Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 30 years ago I had a tough time justifying the extra cost stepping up from the $5-10 scissor style wire crimpers to the $25 ratchet crimpers. But after being exposed to ratchet crimpers in the Navy (multi-$100 nuke grade ones) I tried the civilian version once I found a pair I could afford as a poorly paid E-4. I wasn't sure if the civ version would perform as well, but it was almost as good as the mil ones. I've been a fan of ratchet crimpers and dedicated dies ever since. Similarly, when I started with the Weather Pack connectors I bought the scissor style crimper for them. But as you mentioned earlier, it didn't do 12 AWG and the two step crimp and poorer fit of the tool made the job harder than it needed to be. Some of my other crimpers were able to get the job done on the larger wires. Once I decided the Weather Pack connectors were something I would like to continue using in the future, I started looking for an appropriate ratchet crimper. I went with the kit since it let me store the assortment of small parts along with the crimper. I actually removed the body parts to another organizer to let me store more terminals in the crimper box. The biggest advantage to the ratchet crimpers is repeatability and reliability. It's easy to over or under crimp when using the scissor style crimpers and it's usually a multi-step crimp. It takes some experience and skill to get consistently dependable crimps. Ratchet crimpers do a better job with a lower skill requirement. Match the wire size / terminal connector / crimper die and you're almost guaranteed to get a good strong reliable connection. My only regret is that I didn't come across those Astro crimpers years ago. All my other ratchet crimpers require removing screws to change dies. These Astro versions just slide into place. I'm giving serious consideration to buying an entire Astro set just for the added convenience, although the metric markings are a drawback. I also became a fan of the die style wire strippers for similar reasons. The full insulation cut without damaging the conductors, along with grip and pull action of the tool, makes that job much easier also. If you only have a small stub of wire accessible in a repair situation, it lets you do the job one handed in tight spots. I've seen the more universal size auto grip strippers but never really used them since I was already hooked on the die style. https://www.amazon.com/Capri-Tools-20010-Precision-Stripper/dp/B01018CVM0/ref=sr_1_12?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1503544026&sr=1-12&keywords=wire+stripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonShockley Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 A second advantage to ratchet crimpers is that the dies used in the ratchet crimpers often do multiple crimps at once. The bare wire connection needs one size/style of crimp and the insulated area of the wire needs a different size/style crimp. For example, the Weather Pack connector has that B shaped crimp on the wire and an O shaped crimp around the weather seal. The cheap scissor style crimper has two holes for doing these crimps in two steps and getting the tool place in the right spot on the terminal makes a big difference. The tool width also has to be sized for the thinnest depth of any of the multiple openings. The die on the more expensive ratchet tool does both crimps at the same time with each being the appropriate type, width, and spacing needed. So you can have deeper crimp areas on larger wires to hold them better, and smaller crimp areas on smaller wires and terminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 All good points. There are always good points when buying a more expensive tool. But only 1 point matters. It does the job better. I'm not trying to make a career out of this. I simply want to add a few circuits. No more than 3 -5 at most. Any more, and that is just way too much wiring to run (I'm lazy). Fuse taps have always worked in the past. I have a Channellock oil filter plier. I cannot quite articulate it. But it just works better. Does that justify spending $45, when Harbor Freight has something just like it for about $5? And for what it's worth, I cut, strip, and crimp wires with a Channellock tool. Hard to believe that is being sold for about $45. This is why some of us own Snap On tools, and some guys have tools from the bargain bin @ Pep Boys.. Click to open expanded view Channellock Channellock OF-1 2-Piece Oil Filer/PVC Plier Gift Set: 12-Inch and 15-Inch 4.7 out of 5 stars 23 customer reviews Price: $43.67 | FREE One-Day Click to open expanded view Channellock Channellock 908 8.5" Wire Strippers Be the first to review this item Price: $44.98 & FREE Shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 This tool looks interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Open Barrel Terminals: for AWG 20-18/16-14/12-10 Roll over image to zoom in Astro Pneumatic Tool Astro 9477 Professional Quick Interchangeable Ratchet Crimping Tool Set, 7-Piece 4.6 out of 5 stars 115 customer reviews | 32 answered questions Price: $64.99 | FREE One-Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonShockley Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 That's the one I was thinking of getting to replace my existing ratchet crimpers. I have way too many tools. Somebody once asked if there was any tool I didn't have and my reply was "Only the first time." Assorted sources, HF / Craftsman, etc. I tend to go HF on infrequent or one time use items, expecially if they are special purpose ones. It's the only affordable solution for lots of jobs. But quality tools can really make a difference in ease, efficiency, and longevity of repairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I never rule out Harbor Freight. I have a socket set from there that I picked up for about $3+change, plus it came with a free set of screwdrivers. It sits behind my driver's seat in the cab of my pick up. It has done more than it's $3 worth of work. A couple of oil changes, swap out the OEM stereo to an aftermarket unit, taking off body parts & removing headlights to change lamps, removing trim panels & kick plates, building furniture from IKEA......sometimes all that you need is a functioning ratchet handle & socket. Best part is that Harbor Freight has a lifetime warranty on all of their hand tools. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0137JZ2TY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I bought 5 of these for $7.54 on amazon.com a while back, since the price was right & I didn't have to buy 100. Now a buddy of mine wanted a couple, and the price for 5 has shot up to $70.54 + $4.99 for shipping. Funny how pricing and availability changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATC Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Been looking and found these For UK: https://uk.farnell.com/amp-te-connectivity/1-968857-3/contact-socket-16-13awg-crimp/dp/2528057 https://uk.farnell.com/amp-te-connectivity/1-968857-1/contact-crimp-receptacle-17-13awg/dp/2310232 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TE-CONNECTIVITY-AMP-1-968857-1-CONTACT-CRIMP-RECEPTACLE-17-13AWG-Price-for-10/181885606645 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Price-Square-CONTACT-SOCKET-16-13AWG-CRIMP-1-968857-3-Pack-Of-10-By-TE-CONNECTIVITY-AMP/dp/B0167ZFIGC/ref=cm_wl_huc_item Last digit refers to contact plating. 3=silver, 2=gold, 1=tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty150 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Every once in awhile, I still keep my eyes open for this kind of stuff. Don Ridley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williaty Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Anyone have a line on someplace that can source these terminals right now or have some they're willing to sell? All the usual suspects are out of stock and listing as much as a 21 week delay for restocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ridley Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 I sent you a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williaty Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Don's helping me with the smaller ones but if anyone has a lead on the ones for 10-gauge wire, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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