Don Ridley Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 It appears that the latest version of Forscan has problems connecting to all modules. If you have an older model TC (14-18ish) try an older version of Forscan Make sure you are using a good adapter. OBD Link never is the source of connection problems. Delete the vehicle profile and have Forscan create a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmariano Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 8:16 AM, BSJBSJ said: When I was getting the (service procedure has been interrupted) message it was because there was a problem with Forscan. My 2021 Connect was too 'new' at the time. I contacted the developers and they had me send log files to them. They fixed the software and issued an update that fixed my issues. Which were unrelated to swapping steering wheels, so I don't know if yours is the same problem... i will try to contact them to see if they can do something because in order to turn on the options for the CC i need to be able to get into the main configuration of the BCM and my TC is 2015 so is not that new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrm223 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I had problems with that service interruption thing a couple weeks ago when I needed to reprogram my BCM for OE tire size (I was running 215/65R16 for a few years), after updating to the newest version at the time, 2.3.43. As a test, I removed x.43 and downloaded/installed 2.3.41 off their website and it worked perfectly fine on my 2015; I didn't try 2.3.42, so I can't say if it's affected by the issue or not. Going back a version or two is the quickest and easiest way to go, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69DropTop Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) I am looking to add cruise to my 2017 Connect and am going to start looking for a steering wheel. I have a couple questions: 1. Does it matter what year the steering wheel comes from? 2. Has anyone figured out if the steering wheel radio controls can be turned on if you have the base radio? I know nothing about Forscan so I will need to do some research on it. Honestly, I'm a little nervous to try and program the computer myself and thought about seeing what a dealer would charge. Edited March 7, 2022 by 69DropTop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ridley Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 1. A 2014-2018 steering wheel should work. But there are many 2017s available and I would choose one just to be sure. Check car-part.com. Leather wheels are around $125 and non-leather are about $75. 2. I have done some configuration of the stock head unit (ACM) and there are some settings that may need to be changed to use the controls on the steering wheel. These changes are easily made with Forscan but you may need to do a little research (this is easy to do). There is a good chance it all works assuming the wiring harness is there. You can check the ACM wiring to see if the steering wheel signals are wired to the unit. 3. Forscan.....this is messy now. The developer is a person or group in Russia. They had to suspend purchase of an "extended license" that allows changes like activating cruise control. There has always been a free extended license that is good for two months but forum users are reporting a delay in Forscan issuing the licenses. Things may get worse as Putiin continues his terrible war. It is unlikely a dealer will or can make the configuration changes to activate cruise control. Their software is designed to restore programming that already existed in a vehicle. Edited March 7, 2022 by Don Ridley windguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69DropTop Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Don Ridley said: 1. A 2014-2018 steering wheel should work. But there are many 2017s available and I would choose one just to be sure. Check car-part.com. Leather wheels are around $125 and non-leather are about $75. 2. I have done some configuration of the stock head unit (ACM) and there are some settings that may need to be changed to use the controls on the steering wheel. These changes are easily made with Forscan but you may need to do a little research (this is easy to do). There is a good chance it all works assuming the wiring harness is there. You can check the ACM wiring to see if the steering wheel signals are wired to the unit. 3. Forscan.....this is messy now. The developer is a person or group in Russia. They had to suspend purchase of an "extended license" that allows changes like activating cruise control. There has always been a free extended license that is good for two months but forum users are reporting a delay in Forscan issuing the licenses. Things may get worse as Putiin continues his terrible war. Don, I appreciate the reply and info! 1.) I will probably go non-leather with cruise and radio controls if there is a chance I can turn the radio controls on- that would be awesome!! 2.) When you say assuming the wiring harness is there, do you mean steering wheel wiring harness or radio wiring harness? 3.) That stinks about Forscan! I was considering learning the Forscan software if I had time but that sounds like it might not be an option at this point. Since others have reported a delay in getting the license, I may just go ahead and put in for it now in case I do decide to use it it. Can Forscan be used on more than one vehicle? I live in Cincinnati OH and considered paying someone that is familiar with Forscan to program my TC. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ridley Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Here are some wiring diagrams. Your ACM needs to have the ICAN network wires and the 4" screen (FCDIM) to read the steering wheel signals. The attached wiring diagrams show ACM configurations with and without the ICAN wires. If you ACM is the base unit without the FCDIM it's not possible to activate the steering wheel controls. Here's a portion of what I found on car-part.com. You have to call these junkyards directly and shipping is not included. ACM network.pdf ACM wiring diagrams (2020_07_16 14_49_21 UTC).pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 69DropTop said: I am looking to add cruise to my 2017 Connect and am going to start looking for a steering wheel. I have a couple questions: 1. Does it matter what year the steering wheel comes from? 2. Has anyone figured out if the steering wheel radio controls can be turned on if you have the base radio? Hello 69droptop, If you have the base FM/AM radio I don't think the steering wheel buttons would work because that the same radio I had and in my 2014 TC the radio harness plug doesn't have the wires for the buttons to works. I'm waiting for my leather steering wheel with cruise and radio buttons is on the mail and should arrive today. So in few day I will tell you my experience with the steering wheel swap...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69DropTop Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Don Ridley said: Here are some wiring diagrams. Your ACM needs to have the ICAN network wires and the 4" screen (FCDIM) to read the steering wheel signals. The attached wiring diagrams show ACM configurations with and without the ICAN wires. If you ACM is the base unit without the FCDIM it's not possible to activate the steering wheel controls. Here's a portion of what I found on car-part.com. You have to call these junkyards directly and shipping is not included. ACM network.pdf 292.11 kB · 0 downloads ACM wiring diagrams (2020_07_16 14_49_21 UTC).pdf 1.3 MB · 0 downloads Thanks again!! I was planning on checking on car-part.com when I had a chance to find a steering wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69DropTop Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jseda said: Hello 69droptop, If you have the base FM/AM radio I don't think the steering wheel buttons would work because that the same radio I had and in my 2014 TC the radio harness plug doesn't have the wires for the buttons to works. I'm waiting for my leather steering wheel with cruise and radio buttons is on the mail and should arrive today. So in few day I will tell you my experience with the steering wheel swap...! Jseda, Thanks for the info! I think I just have the base AM/FM radio; it does have AUX in but I bet that is standard. Do you still have the base AM/FM radio? It would be great if you could let me know how your steering wheel swap goes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, 69DropTop said: Do you still have the base AM/FM radio? It would be great if you could let me know how your steering wheel swap goes!! I replaced the original radio with an aftermarket Android 8" screen headunit..! 69DropTop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69DropTop Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 11:05 AM, Jseda said: I replaced the original radio with an aftermarket Android 8" screen headunit..! Did you have to buy an adapter to make the radio fit the dash? If you are able to post a picture of it installed that would be awesome! I wouldn't mind upgrading my radio, especially if the steering wheel controls work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, 69DropTop said: Did you have to buy an adapter to make the radio fit the dash? If you are able to post a picture of it installed that would be awesome! I wouldn't mind upgrading my radio, especially if the steering wheel controls work!! Here is my radio , I haven't change yet my steering wheel , so you can see have no buttons but will do it this week and let you know about the steering wheel controls with the radio.. Yes , you need some adapters Radio harness, antenna adapter and the facia for double din radios. Post a photo of your radio to see which one you need Edited March 9, 2022 by Jseda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69DropTop Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jseda said: Here is my radio , I haven't change yet my steering wheel , so you can see have no buttons but will do it this week and let you know about the steering wheel controls with the radio.. Yes , you need some adapters Radio harness, antenna adapter and the facia for double din radios. Post a photo of your radio to see which one you need Your radio looks nice, I'm sure it's much better than the factory radio. Yes, please let me know how your steering wheel swap goes and if your able to make the radio controls work. I have attached a picture of the same radio that I have. Edited March 10, 2022 by 69DropTop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, 69DropTop said: I have attached a picture of the same radio that I have. Ok I will let you know... That exactly the same radio I had....! Edited March 10, 2022 by Jseda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossipninja Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 10/8/2018 at 4:03 PM, Beta Don said: I might have a steering wheel that will work for you. My 2014 came with factory cruise and I replaced the OEM steering wheel with another OEM wheel which is leather wrapped and has the audio controls also - My original one was just vinyl and doesn't have the audio controls. I bought the leather one on eBay for $125 Don Did you get the audio controls to work? I just did this swap on my '14 xlt wagon (single disk radio, no sync) but don't know what to alter in as-built with forscan as I didn't see an option for "radio control" my vin is NM0GS9F71E1153342 (and the vin of the steering wheel is NM0LS7F72G1272930 and is a cargo van with sync) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ridley Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) The audio buttons on the steering wheel must connect to the FCDIM (the panel in the middle with the radio presets and tuning buttons). Look for the wires and connector per this diagram. No Forscan changes are needed. sw controls.pdf Edited March 12, 2022 by Don Ridley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 15 hours ago, gossipninja said: Did you get the audio controls to work? I just did this swap on my '14 xlt wagon (single disk radio, no sync) but don't know what to alter in as-built with forscan as I didn't see an option for "radio control" Post a picture of your radio, to see what you have...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossipninja Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I have the radio that looks like the pic below. No sync, no HD or satellite to my knowledge, and it uses only 1 of the c240 connectors on the acm (the box the cd goes into) I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 hours ago, gossipninja said: I have the radio that looks like the pic below. No sync, no HD or satellite to my knowledge, and it uses only 1 of the c240 connectors on the acm (the box the cd goes into) I Check this picture attached, this is a picture from my radio plug C240A if you see cable #14 brown/green and #15 Blue/white then you don't have the I-can network in that plug.. if you have #14 Blue/Grey and #15 Violet/Grey then you have the I-can network in C240A plug I don't know what is "Mechless" and "Without Mechless" My TC is Mechless and I don't have the I-can network in my radio plug C240A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 hours ago, gossipninja said: I have the radio that looks like the pic below. No sync, no HD or satellite to my knowledge, and it uses only 1 of the c240 connectors on the acm (the box the cd goes into) I swap my steering wheel yesterday with a leather one with buttons on both side but I haven't connect the radio buttons yet... I let you know if I can get it to work...! Check this picture attached it is the I-Can network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossipninja Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 yeah I have violet gry and blue grey in my c240a (mine requires a canbus thing for aftermarket radio like a Metra XSVI-5524-NAV) mechless means no disk drive, so without mechless means with disk drive. I also have the 4 inch screen above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, gossipninja said: yeah I have violet gry and blue grey in my c240a (mine requires a canbus thing for aftermarket radio like a Metra XSVI-5524-NAV) mechless means no disk drive, so without mechless means with disk drive. I also have the 4 inch screen above Thanks for the clarification about Mechless. I had the fm/am radio and no 4" screen. Now I'm happy with my android 8" screen headunit, I just need to find the I-Can wires inside the dash to connect them to my radio.. ! So in my opinion if you installed the steering wheel with radio controls and doesn't work, I think your radio doesn't have that option internally even if you have the I-Can wires in the C240A plug...!?!? Do you have factory backup camera..? And you can see the image in that screen..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossipninja Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 yes i got factory backup and it shows in the 4 inch screen. I know with focus's and f150s they have to go into forscan to enable radio control when they upgrade steering wheels. I compared my asbuilt and the steering wheel donor vehicle asbuilt and there are some changes in the FCDIM (front control display interface module) but I am not sure which values correspond to the radio buttons and I don't have a "good" obd reader to see all the modules on forscan yet. Also I don't think you can just tap the ican signals and route them to the android headunit, I think you need a canbus box to decode those. maybe something like this https://www.ugar-hk.com/product-page/ford-oem-harness-with-canbus-for-ugar-head-units but I don't know if this works with the default AM/FM mechless option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jseda Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, gossipninja said: yes i got factory backup and it shows in the 4 inch screen. I know with focus's and f150s they have to go into forscan to enable radio control when they upgrade steering wheels. I compared my asbuilt and the steering wheel donor vehicle asbuilt and there are some changes in the FCDIM (front control display interface module) but I am not sure which values correspond to the radio buttons and I don't have a "good" obd reader to see all the modules on forscan yet. Also I don't think you can just tap the ican signals and route them to the android headunit, I think you need a canbus box to decode those. maybe something like this https://www.ugar-hk.com/product-page/ford-oem-harness-with-canbus-for-ugar-head-units but I don't know if this works with the default AM/FM mechless option. Go into central configuration main , I just found few settings about what radio you have.. maybe is something there you have to change..?!?! Look this picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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