Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hello everyone, First post, apologies... I hope someone can help. All the best.. I left my Van for 3 months outside in quite damp conditions with no regular starting. The van ran perfect before this with no warning lights or issues. I've since tried to start it but it won't even crank. It's not the starter or battery. It's a diagnostic issue where the ECU is not allowing it to crank. I have 2 warning lights that won't go out. The Coil light and the powertrain warning light (cogged wheel with ! In it). The mileage also now reads -------, if I disconnect the battery and re connect after a while I get the mileage back until I turn the key again. The imobiliser light seems to stay flashing with ignition on? Is this normal?? I have tried 2 different OBD readers today and both won't connect? Could this be an ECU issue? As in it's dead? And isn't talking to the reader? Seems very strange after 3 months of sitting outside all hell breaks loose? I've checked all fuses in engine bay and swapped round known working relays but nothing. I get a click when I turn on ignition. The only thing I've spotted apart from the norm, is my turbo to airbox pipe is split. Anyone have any ideas? I've tried some Ford forums but not having loads of joy. I know I can take it to Ford but it's 12 years old and done 200k so I'm not really wanting to throw too much at it. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The rapidly flashing red immobilizer light means it is unable to read the transponder code from the key. The curious part is having several error lights on. Are you sure the battery is good? You should try another one or jump start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Thanks for the reply im sat in it now! Ok the led is flashing every 3 seconds , if I turn the ignition on the clocks fire up, fuel gauge reads, everything does what it should. The 2 lights stay on and the led just flashes as it was before every 3 seconds. I've tried waiting a minute to see if it gives and codes but nothing? The battery is brand new. Everything in the cab works, ac , fan, lights etc. I've checked fuses in both boxes, and also swapped the relays around just in case. Still nothing? Im wondering if the transponder isn't working? Both keys do the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Have you jumped the starter with the Key on to see if it starts? Make sure it is in neutral with the brake set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 I've just jumped the starter with ignition off and it cranked? Should I try with it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Turn the Key on and Jump it . Stay out of the way! Mita 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Crikey! What's the worse that can happen?! So turn on ignition then place wire that's temporarily on solinoid on battery positive yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 yes I have a jumper switch for the job. Mita 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Cable is only 2.5 mm electric singles. That's all I had!? Have jump leads but won't be able to get on solinoid. Only think I could do is a small length of the 2.5 from the solinoid then clamp a jump lead on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The large terminal on the starter is hot all the time so the length is very short. Mita 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 So just to confirm (sorry) I'm turning on ignition, then with a length of wire I'm hooking up to the solinoid and then the other end I'm placing on the battery positive terminal? How long should I try and crank it for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Update!!! Ive cranked it with ignition on and a 12v supply to solinoid. Nothing, it turns over fine no issues or bad noises but doesn't fire. ? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 What kind of scan tool do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 What about the fuses inside the car ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 They were both borrowed. I'm not sure as I don't have them here. One was through a small laptop and the guy said it was a top make, had to put in year of car , and other details. Other was a hand held generic reader. Both wouldn't connect , he said the ECU is dead. ? So I'm guessing there's no power at the OBD port? I was going to buy an Icarsoft i920? Seems good? But a little worried in case it won't connect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Year and model and engine of the TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Do you have the owners manual or can you download a copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Seems very strange the imobiliser light keeps flashing when ignition on? Van has mould on seats where it was sat so I'm worried moisture and damp has got in to ECU? It's behind glove box? I was gonna take it home and make sure it's clean and dry inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, G B L said: What about the fuses inside the car ? I have checked them all visually but not with a continuity tester. I can do that next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 That would be good. Mita 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, G B L said: Year and model and engine of the TC 2005 connect , engine is a 1.8L DURATORQ-TDDI (LYNX) DIESEL I . I have a Haynes manual but that's it Edited March 11, 2017 by Mita Wrong engine ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 All fuses are ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Go to ford UK and down load an owner's manual with your Vin Number. I down loaded the 2002 version from Ford UK. Mita 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mita Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Ok thank you. Once I have the manual what's my next step? Appreciate your help mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G B L Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Check and see if the scan tool lights up with power at the Obd connector . Check out the Immobilizer section of the manual. Any water leak's in the TC/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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