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Just a little update to everyone looking for info to activate the cruise control after swap the steering wheel...!

 

I was able to activate it and test it and works fine in my 2014 TC XL With a leather steering wheel installed yesterday...! 

 

I did a change in  

"central configuration main"

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, gossipninja said:

is there an option for "Audio buttons on steering wheel"?
Focus's have that option in byte 187 on this focus oriented asbuilt tool http://ford.xtlt.ru/ab/

It's possible this option isn't surfaced in forscan for transit connects1357074044_Screenshot2022-03-13233944.jpg.2805e485e858f1747c1ec9e7e2c493ab.jpg.
 

Under BdyCm(main), look at the tab/box in the upper left corner. It defaults to NORMAL. Select ENGINEERING mode to get more options. Look for the audio button options. Note that steering wheel audio options are not the same as steering wheel controls (SWC). SWC is a separate pod of buttons. 

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17 hours ago, gossipninja said:

is there an option for "Audio buttons on steering wheel"?
Focus's have that option in byte 187 on this focus oriented asbuilt tool http://ford.xtlt.ru/ab/

It's possible this option isn't surfaced in forscan for transit connects1357074044_Screenshot2022-03-13233944.jpg.2805e485e858f1747c1ec9e7e2c493ab.jpg.
 

 

I found that option in my Transit Connect 2014 XL , is set without audio buttons. 

 

Before do anything else trying to get the right side steering wheel buttons to work you need to see under the steering wheel by clock spring and steering angle sensor to check if the buttons are wired to your car harness. 

 

I just checked my Transit but I do not have those wires in the connector..  I would need to add the wires and try to connect them directly to my radio..

 

See this picture 

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On 3/7/2022 at 8:47 AM, 69DropTop said:

I am looking to add cruise to my 2017 Connect and am going to start looking for a steering wheel.

 

 

 

Just an update..

 

I swap my steering wheel and I was able to enable the cruise control using Forscan and works..!

 

My TC 2014 XL

Donor steering wheel is from TC 2014 XLT

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42 minutes ago, gossipninja said:

Yeah I just looked and don't have those wires.(edit and the donor car did)

 

Assuming I can add them and the pins what would I connect them on the radio or fcdim?

 

Do you have a 2014 TC XLT , right..?

 

Do you have access to your donor TC?

So you could cut the harness with all the wires from that TC..?

 

Do you have a pictures of your radio/fcdim connectors/Plugs..? So I can find them in my wiring book and try to figure it out how to add them...

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5 hours ago, gossipninja said:

the donor is at a local junkyard, they "may" let me cut that plug off (I have repinning tools, so that might be an option too)

Don't have any pics of the fcdim but here is the radio harness and acm model number

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Yes , if you get the plug you just need to add 2 pins to your existing plug... but you will need to check the plug of your fcdim and post a picture, so I can compare it with my wiring diagram book

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first off, I appreciate everyone's help, 

 

My fcdim looks complete.

So in theory I add wires connecting steering plug bluewithwhite_pin6 to bluewithwhite_pin10 on fcdim

and steering wheel white_pin5to fcdim greywithyellow_pin7?

and I guess if it turns out my FCdim DOESN"T have wires, can I just tap into any other HS-Can wires?,
 

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10 minutes ago, gossipninja said:

first off, I appreciate everyone's help, 

 

My fcdim looks complete.

So in theory I add wires connecting steering plug bluewithwhite_pin6 to bluewithwhite_pin10 on fcdim

and steering wheel white_pin5to fcdim greywithyellow_pin7?

and I guess if it turns out my FCdim DOESN"T have wires, can I just tap into any other HS-Can wires?,
 

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That's C2123 plug

 

Check if that plug has 10 wires..?

 

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40 minutes ago, gossipninja said:

first off, I appreciate everyone's help, 

 

My fcdim looks complete.

So in theory I add wires connecting steering plug bluewithwhite_pin6 to bluewithwhite_pin10 on fcdim

and steering wheel white_pin5to fcdim greywithyellow_pin7?

and I guess if it turns out my FCdim DOESN"T have wires, can I just tap into any other HS-Can wires?,
 

 

Yes you would need to connect pin 5 (C218A) to pin7 in (C2123) 

 

Pin6(C218A to pin10(C2123)

 

C218A in clockspring

C2123 IN FCDIM

 

I DOUBT will work connected to HS-can

 

I was checking the pictures you sent me and I believe that what you are missing so far... I think should work..

 

I my case would be different because I don't have the fcdim , I need to connect from clockspring directly to my radio SWC input... but I need the 2 pins to add them to plug C218A.....

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9 hours ago, Jseda said:

 

Hello gossipninja 

 

Any luck with your radio...?

 

 

 I ordered a metra harness (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/metra-ford-swc-plug-and-play-harness-black/5741908.p?skuId=5741908&ref=NS&loc=101) that splits the camera off, but piggy backs the other wires, so I don't have to splice into the factory cables and that will take a few days to get here.

You mentioned with your after market radio you were just gonna wire the steering column pins to the key1 and key2  and since ultimately I will be putting an aftermarket head unit it I may end up doing the same and bypassing the need to tap into the fcdim circuit or even use an SWC box (even though I have a spare metra one that goes into my xxiv24 nav radio harness), 
So in the next few days I will be testing a theory and testing the steering column pins to see if the resistors of the audio buttons just give me raw values my aftermarket headunit (not currently installed) can read.

Again I appreciate the help (also I see you swapped your speedo cluster, I am just about to the bite the bullet but gotta check the mileage on it) I know someone on here did his own eeprom reporgram, and while I have the eeprom programmer, I don't know where to start to find and update the correct mileage values.

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20 minutes ago, gossipninja said:

 I ordered a metra harness (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/metra-ford-swc-plug-and-play-harness-black/5741908.p?skuId=5741908&ref=NS&loc=101) that splits the camera off, but piggy backs the other wires, so I don't have to splice into the factory cables and that will take a few days to get here.

You mentioned with your after market radio you were just gonna wire the steering column pins to the key1 and key2  and since ultimately I will be putting an aftermarket head unit it I may end up doing the same and bypassing the need to tap into the fcdim circuit or even use an SWC box (even though I have a spare metra one that goes into my xxiv24 nav radio harness), 
So in the next few days I will be testing a theory and testing the steering column pins to see if the resistors of the audio buttons just give me raw values my aftermarket headunit (not currently installed) can read.

Again I appreciate the help (also I see you swapped your speedo cluster, I am just about to the bite the bullet but gotta check the mileage on it) I know someone on here did his own eeprom reporgram, and while I have the eeprom programmer, I don't know where to start to find and update the correct mileage values.

 

I tested the pins in the clockspring and they gave me different resistance on each button when pressed...! I just need to find a plug to pull those 2 pins to make a little harness to the key1 wire of my radio and the other pin to ground.

 

I you get another speedo cluster , try to find one with less mileage than your... then with forscan you can add the remaining mileage to match your current one.. you can change it with forscan.. just adding, you can't lowered.

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13 hours ago, gossipninja said:

 
So in the next few days I will be testing a theory and testing the steering column pins to see if the resistors of the audio buttons just give me raw values my aftermarket headunit (not currently installed) can read.

 

 

I just confirmed my theory...!

 

Steering wheel radio control buttons works without any SWC adapter..!

 

I connected mine directly from clockspring pin5 to the back of my aftermarket Android headunit SWC key1 wire ,don't need the other swc key# wire to be connected .. and from clockspring pin6 to ground.

 

My 2014 TC XL didn't came with those wires in the harness because came with basic radio am/fm and no buttons on the steering wheel.!

 

This picture is the clockspring plug where I added to wires 

 

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17 minutes ago, gossipninja said:

did you just jam the wires in?, looks good regardless. 
Also atoto's are pretty nice is that the 8inch s8 android?

 

Yes I pushed the wire into the pins inside, didn't use connectors, just cut the wire tips straight and pushed in... if I find the right plug from a junkyard later I would like to put the 2 pins to the plug...

 

Yes , it is Atoto S8 gen2 standard 8" floating screen  ,single din chassis..

 

 

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On 3/15/2022 at 8:06 PM, Jseda said:

That's C2123 plug

 

Check if that plug has 10 wires..?

 

 

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after digging into this, 
I have 9 wires and 2 are bk-wh. I have

1.bn-rd

2.empty

3.empty

4.bu-gy

5.vy-gy

6-bu

7.empty

8.ye

9.bk-wh

10.wh-gn (not bu-wt)

11.bk-wh

12.gn

 

so no pin 7 (i can add this and go to pin 5 on steering) and why is pin 10 listed twice?Can I use pin 10 wh-gn to pin 6 on steering wheel in place of bu-wh?

Also why are their 2 parking video positives?

 

again i appreciate everyone's help.

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also I did try to add a pin 7 on the fcdim going to pin 5 on steering and connect the pin 10 (wt-gn) i had to pin 6 and it did not work (granted the connections were temporary and possibly not making good contact) and it the radio didn't respond.

Did notice a blue-white on the radio control panel plug (6 pin connector that goes into dt1t-18k811-cd) and was wondering if that would work instead of the pin 10 on the fcdim?

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35 minutes ago, gossipninja said:

also I did try to add a pin 7 on the fcdim going to pin 5 on steering and connect the pin 10 (wt-gn) i had to pin 6 and it did not work (granted the connections were temporary and possibly not making good contact) and it the radio didn't respond.

Did notice a blue-white on the radio control panel plug (6 pin connector that goes into dt1t-18k811-cd) and was wondering if that would work instead of the pin 10 on the fcdim?

 

That's different to my case because I'm using an aftermarket Android headunit.  You have the original radio..

 

Did you try pin 5 from steering wheel to pin 7 fcdim...? And pin 6 steering wheel to ground..?

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We need some help here.  My wife is leaving on a 1400 mile trip on Friday and desperately needs CC.  We have a 2016 TC XL and swapped the steering wheel for a 2016 with CC (and radio) buttons that we got from an auto recycler.  We used Forescan (version 2.3.46) to enable cruise control and ASC in the Central Configuration module and not having any luck getting it working.  We tried different combinations of selections within those 2 modules with no luck.  Looked in different modules for other possible CC settings and didn't find anything.  I took the airbag back off to double check the connections and that no wires got pinched and everything looked good.  Any ideas where we can go from here?

 

Paul

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1 hour ago, Black46 said:

We need some help here.  My wife is leaving on a 1400 mile trip on Friday and desperately needs CC.  We have a 2016 TC XL and swapped the steering wheel for a 2016 with CC (and radio) buttons that we got from an auto recycler.  We used Forescan (version 2.3.46) to enable cruise control and ASC in the Central Configuration module and not having any luck getting it working.  We tried different combinations of selections within those 2 modules with no luck.  Looked in different modules for other possible CC settings and didn't find anything.  I took the airbag back off to double check the connections and that no wires got pinched and everything looked good.  Any ideas where we can go from here?

 

Paul

 

Can you post a picture of the forscan screen with the list of your modules...?

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