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Split Coolant Elbow at rear of 1.8Tdci 90HP


Warninglighton
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Greetings from a Newbie...

I come here in search of knowledge!

My son has come back home (500 miles each way) with his T230 LWB High Top (No working heater), and taken away his Mother's Mini.

Nothing new in that...his Transit needs some TLC and fixing and good old Dad does it for free!!!

Having spent Saturday morning Holts treating and flushing the coolant, I replaced a couple of split Turbo hoses that needed doing. I then cured the bird churping noise by fitting a new drive/aux belt, then went for the lack of cabin heat by changing the complete thermostat and housing and the main radiator, in the hope of purging the heater matrix with improved flow - at least hopeful of giving it it's best chance to improve.

Last thing Saturday, after filling up system with fresh coolant, it immediately started pissing out coolant like a tap from a plastic elbow (that has a split on the bend) at the rear of the engine. As all the local parts stores were shut, I tried plastic weld but it just forms big surface bubbles so abandoned the project and left it up on my friends hoist!

Now it's Sunday, I don't have access to the van to trace the path of the part, and I'm not sure what the part is called...Ford seem to be secretive about parts diagrams here in the UK, and all pictures of the 1.8Tdci engine on the Web are taken from the front (dip stick) side.

I can't find a parts diagram or picture of the rear (back) of the engine to start the parts quest...can anyone here help please! 

It seems as though the item may well have been weak and or pin holed and then burst from the Holts Additive chemistry and subsequent sudden re-pressuration of the system achieved by fitting the new main radiator. The van is at the garage up on the hoist 5 miles away...And is going to be in their way when they open up on Monday morning!!!

Best,

Andy

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Maybe you can take some photos of the part and it's location on the van.  Show everyone what you're typing about.  Sometimes it's very difficult to understand what someone is talking about without actually seeing what they are describing.

 

With good photos, it would be easier to pull up the parts diagram, and the auto parts counter guy may be able to help you locate the part number.

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Thanks for your help...

I think (and hope) its the EGR hose I've ordered (see the pics attached)!

On another thread a ftcf.com member recommended ford.7zap.com which gave me the parts diagrams I was looking for.

After scouring all the sections I whittled it down to the EGR hose. I hope I'm right!

It's the only part of the coolant system that has this type of hard plastic right angled elbow...a bit like what

you might find on the back of a washing machine or dishwasher!!!

Best,

Andy

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14 hours ago, Warninglighton said:

it immediately started pissing out coolant like a tap from a plastic elbow

 

6 hours ago, Warninglighton said:

the EGR hose I've ordered

 

 

 

EGR is Exhaust Gas Recirculation.  

 

I am having a hard time with coolant leaking from the EGR hose.  If there is coolant circulating from the exhaust back to the intake....... you have problems.

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Warninglighton said:

Ford seem to be secretive about parts diagrams here in the UK, and all pictures of the 1.8Tdci engine on the Web are taken from the front (dip stick) side.

 

 

 

expand your search, use the internet

 

 

 

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Diagrams show an "EGR cooler"; presumably it's a turbodiesel thing. I don't question much since they started putting coolant through throttle bodies.

 

I'm more surprised he found the damn thing without knowing what it's called. 7zap doesn't seem to show a full coolant hose diagram, and the EGR cooler isn't listed under "Cooling System". Even the heater core lives under "Electrical" because they have it grouped with the blower fan.

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Chaps,

Mystery solved...

It was indeed the EGR Hose #4932545.

So called because it runs from the EGR housing down to the cabin heater matrix.

Hard to fathom how it could pin hole on the elbow as it's made of rigid plastic.

Before it finally blew out, the pin hole must have been like a fine hairspray mist for ages,

which was instantly evaporated away by the hot catalytic converter and exhaust directly below it.

So you would get a mysterious coolant leak without ever knowing why...

The only tell-tale clue is the faint smell of coolant...and if you were running a low level of coolant 

to water mix, that smell would be hardly detectable!

Worth knowing and looking out for as the elbow is just out of site at the rear (of the transverse) engine!

 

Best,

Andy M

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