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$500 off of invoice for orderering a 2017 a good deal?


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I don't know what "invoice" really means.  It sounds like everyone is buying "below invoice".  How can it be that dealers are losing money? And I doubt it that everyone is such a great negotiator that we're really beating the dealership.  That's like marking everything at the ninety nine cents store to five dollars, then letting you think you got a deal for two dollars. 

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