lowspeedpursuit Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The goal: rear carpet in my 1st-Gen (2010). So I had assumed wagons had rear carpet, and it would just be a matter of buying aftermarket replacement, or maybe junkyard -> clean up. But apparently not? I just see "cargo mat" back there in pictures, if anything. Everything I see for sale is either non-carpeted "cargo mat/liner"--which I don't want for fear of trapping moisture below--or various resellers of the Bedrug Vanrug. And the Vanrug would probably be dope! I was about to buy the VRTC11 (2011-13), but in searching I saw multiple topics like this, referencing the existence of a notably different product (VRTC10) for the 2010. So I shot Bedrug an e-mail asking if they could maybe describe the differences, and whether they thought the VRTC11 could be "close enough" to work in a 2010. Surprisingly, I was curtly told that even though the VRTC11 is still listed for sale, actually they only make the 2nd-Gen 2014+ (VRTC14) now. I'm following up, and hoping maybe they still have one shoved in a corner or something, but I figured I'd also get out in front of finding alternatives if that doesn't work out. Anyway, what else have people slapped down back there? Anything else remotely designed to fit, or is the only option subfloor and carpeting manually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windguy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Now I know you're keeping this van for sure In my Gen2, I did two layers of sound proofing for sound and moisture, plywood subfloor (5/8 or 3/4) ext grade primed/painted then HD bulk roll carpet. Tucked the carpet over the edges of the ply. Cheap but functional. I use tarps when needed to protect the carpet and make for easy cleanup. Also, sponge rolled black enamel paint on the door panels for water protection and appearance after adding sound proofing inside door cavities. Nothing fancy, just functional. lowspeedpursuit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedpursuit Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 That looks really good--downright luxurious by my standards! What's between the carpet and the subfloor, glue on top and staples where it wraps around underneath? Or just carpet staples all around the edges? Or something else entirely? Bedrug got back to me after a few days and basically said "whoops, I goofed, you can still buy the 2011", but he still never answered the original question of how hard it differs from the 2010. Honestly, I know I'm only one guy with just $200 on the line, but the feeling of getting mostly blown off by sales/support is still kind of turning me off from buying this company's product. Not to mention, you know, me being a cheap shit. Althought with 4x8s $50 for 1/2" and $70 for 3/4", I don't even know how much money I'd be saving. windguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windguy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 8:34 PM, lowspeedpursuit said: That looks really good--downright luxurious by my standards! What's between the carpet and the subfloor, glue on top and staples where it wraps around underneath? Or just carpet staples all around the edges? Or something else entirely? Bedrug got back to me after a few days and basically said "whoops, I goofed, you can still buy the 2011", but he still never answered the original question of how hard it differs from the 2010. Honestly, I know I'm only one guy with just $200 on the line, but the feeling of getting mostly blown off by sales/support is still kind of turning me off from buying this company's product. Not to mention, you know, me being a cheap shit. Althought with 4x8s $50 for 1/2" and $70 for 3/4", I don't even know how much money I'd be saving. Thanks. I used contact cement (Weldwood-red label original) with a brush to glue the carpet directly to the wood (after priming and painting). I may have started with spray adhesive but it didn't cover enough area. Yeah, plywood is still expensive. I've never tried OSB for projects but that's a lower cost option I see at HD. 1/2" ply always seem to warp a bit so I prefer a beefier 5/8" or better. I took a peak at those Bedrug mats and they look pretty nice. Something to be said for a turnkey solution unless you have plans to want to bolt something down. Then the wood sub is preferred. Anything will be better than what you have now for noise and comfort. The Bedrug linked below shows 2011-2013. I would for sure want to nail down the fit for a 2010 vs the 2011-13. Maybe you can grab a coupon code for Black Friday and save some bucks. That might sway you to this solution. VANRUG 11-13 FORD TRANSIT CONNECT #VRTC11 Price*: $179.00 https://bedrug.com/vanrug-cargo-mats/2012/ford/transit-connect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedpursuit Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) So Bedrug got back to me Tuesday afternoon, reversed their original policy on not sharing details on their products, and told me the VRTC11 has max dimensions of 72.5" x 57.5". My cargo area max is roughly 67" x 56.5". Looking closer at the Vanrug pics, I see they have the forward cargo floor extension in place, which I removed with the partition and rubber flooring when I inherited the van, since it was all totally trashed. I can't see any obvious reason the '11 shouldn't be "close enough" to work in the '10, and knowing what I know now, it's probably the best value proposition, and I may buy one in the future. To their credit, Bedrug also apologized for the delay in communications. Unfortunately, I needed a floor in place this coming weekend, so when I didn't hear from them on Monday, I started slapping together some carpet-over-wood Tuesday morning. It's not great, but it is passable. It's what you would get if you told a redneck to approximate Windguy's floor in one sitting and one trip to Home Depot. 5' of the cheapest grey carpet in the store on 23/32" RTD with 6700 adhesive (for "outdoor"/non-backed carpet), just barely stretching out one of the small containers. Wood is neither primed, painted, nor sealed. Bottom side is stapled. Lopped either ~27+7/8" or ~28+7/8" off the back of the plywood and rounded the front corners with a jigsaw. Held down with 6x 3/8"-16x2" bolts, all in the front, partially countersunk. Total project cost is just under $100. Actually paint the wood and buy enough carpet glue and you're damn near the price of the Vanrug, but whatever. Van is quiet. Floor is more comfortable. Corners are dirty. Fuel economy doesn't seem to care about the weight of the plywood. Edited November 17, 2022 by lowspeedpursuit budo675 and windguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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