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How the heck do you jack one of these things up?

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1 hour ago, MLB said:

Someone pointed out the hitch tongue rating as a limiting factor. Not true as tongue weight limit is about how much load  the suspension will handle, not a max lifting number.  

 

If what you say was true, then for sure there would be a max lifting rating stamped on the hitch also . . . . and there isn't.  Bolt on hitches were not designed to support the weight of one end of the vehicle and should not be used as a jack point

 

Don

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59 minutes ago, Beta Don said:

Bolt on hitches were not designed to support the weight of one end of the vehicle and should not be used as a jack point

 

Yet, people still think that 4 bolts attached is strong enough. All the weight is on those 4 bolts.  Or maybe 6 bolts.  Or 8 bolts.  

 

To lift and support 1 corner, equipment should be rated higher than the vehicle weight.  Yet, people choose to believe that the weight rating is for 1/4 of the vehicle.  I see it all the time.  A 1/2 ton truck weighing 5,000  - 6,000 pounds needs at least a 3 ton jack. 

 

 

It's the 1.5 ton lightweight racing jack from Harbor Freight.  A lot of people like it because it's light weight and inexpensive.  They don't understand that it's for small cars like Mazda Miata, Toyota Yaris,  or a Smart Car.  There are people who believe that a 1.5 ton jack is fine, since you are only lifting less than 1 ton on any given corner of the truck. 

 

Even with a Transit Connect, you need at least a 2 ton jack.  And support with jackstands. Hydraulic jacks can fail.  I don't want to think about something going wrong.  Be safe.

 

 

 

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On 3/20/2020 at 6:54 PM, Beta Don said:

 

If what you say was true, then for sure there would be a max lifting rating stamped on the hitch also . . . . and there isn't.  Bolt on hitches were not designed to support the weight of one end of the vehicle and should not be used as a jack point

 

Don

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40 minutes ago, MLB said:

BS

Cite a reference from Ford stating that it's safe to jack the van up via the hitch or Don isn't the one of you two spouting BS.

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I don't think any hitch receiver was engineered to be a lift point. No hitch receiver manufacturer recommends it. Does that mean that it won't work?  Clearly, it has been done. But does that make it safe?  Some people don't use jackstands.  Every vehicle manufacturer specifies a lift point in the owners manual. Some owners manual specify where not to lift.   But we see people lifting at the differential, lower control arms, engine/transmission support cross members, bumper.....sometimes nothing bad happens.  You should probably know better than to use a jack under the engine or transmission.   Sometimes damage occurs. Some people die.  Knowing the risk, you make your own choice.  Nobody can convince you that it's safer to use the recommended lift point. And you already believe that there's nothing wrong.

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9 hours ago, williaty said:

Cite a reference from Ford

The information from Ford is strategically vague in a lot of  areas!

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Liability. They recommend 4 jack points and leave it at that. Anything else you do, they are not liable.

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